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Hallo!

I noticed the diystompboxes site was down too, so I also came snooping around here to see what all the fuss was about. I wish I could write German... I can read it well enough to navigate around, but I'd have a hard time posting in German without a translatorprogram.

This forum looks very nice - it gives me a good excuse to learn German!

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... but you don´t need to write in german, I think most of us are able to read and write in englisg as well - real english is even better to understand than artificial german created by crappy software!

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jep... to get an impression of the results of translation programs, translate the text back into english and compare to the original text ;D

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he 1800 beiträge! herrlichen glühstrumpf!

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Yes, I certainly hope the diystompboxes forum isn't gone forever... I am in the middle of working on my entry for this month's FX-X competition, and it would be a shame to not be able to post it.

Earlier, the entire diystompboxes site appeared to be broken, but now it's up again, so hopefully Aron will get the Forum squared away too. But still, I am detecting a strange attitude on that forum. It seems to suffer from a closed culture that doesn't easily accept things outside of the norm. Sure, there's some strange effects to be found on there, but they always seem to be following the same formulas.

It appears to follow a very small clique of diy circuit designers and if you're not one of them, your design will likely be ignored unless it's a derivitive of something one of the "accepted" designers already did. Has anyone else noticed this? It's depressing. What makes it worse is that very few of the designers are actually professionals........ but I guess I probably shouldn't start that argument.

Still, I am happy das Musikding forum is so friendly! I shall visit here often.

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First of all:
Welcome to this forum !

Zitat von modman

My real question was: was is this board's attitude to this matter? Are some schematics not allowed?

If you use the search-button ("Suche") you will find some z.v.-schematics.
As long as I know, there was no problem publishing these, but some people state that they have a schem, but won´t post it on a public forum. But you can always send them a PrivateMessage giving them your email-address, and you will get it.

And please: Just write in English. The translation-software´s output is in the majority of cases just unreadable.

Dominik

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Hi
I've been lurking here for some time, as well as on the DIY Stompboxes site.
I believe in sharing anything that allows others to advance the art.
That is why I posted the link to this site on DIY Stompboxes!!!
I have learned so much from the good people on this site, and there is always fresh ideas and information freely available.
Yes, I agree with all the comments posted on this thread, however I think Aron has got himself caught between the proverbial rock and a hard place ( after all it was he who started the "since when did it become bad to post schematics" thread, on his site).
I have purchased many switches, sockets, inductors and transistors from his store, and have always found his service to be excellent. I will continue to support him and of course Steve Daniels (smallbear electronics.com) , another gentleman who provides an excellent mail order service - check his store out!!!!
This has rapidly become a WORLDWIDE community, and we are all addicted to DIY.
Personally, I have been operating my own repair business (always good to see the right and wrong way of doing things!) for over 20 years now, servicing most of the musical equipment for fellow musicians in the South Island of New Zealand (even though I was born in London, England!!) I am authorised to perform warranty repairs on a variety of brands, and have built up an extensive range of schematics over the years. I am 56 years old (still standing!!) and I would love to encourage younger members to develop their ideas. I really don't mind if one day these younger members advance to commercial manufacture of pedals. If they can derive an income from doing something they enjoy, that is fantastic.
BUT
Please don't stifle creativity by refusing others the opportunity to DIY. :-X
One manufacturer who deserves a round of applause is FENDER. When you purchase any of their products, you receive an owners manual AND a schematic. That is why you will always find this information easily. Of course you can build yourself a "clone", but only a Fender can be sold under that trade name!! I seriously doubt that Fender are worried that their sales are dropping - I think you will find it is the contrary, judging from the continuing popularity of their products.
Anyway enough with the sermon
Welcome to DIY Musikding

ps hi to analogguru

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Exactly the reasons I jumped ship and came over here.

I dont post much, my german is non-existant but Musikding is actually a fun place to be

Thanks guys

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Don´t get nervous, I think it´s only "Zecken-Overload"....

Friedrich Nietzsche said (approx.):
If you look too long in the abyss, you must take care that the abyss doesn´t look inside you...

Maybe the abyss looked inside the server of diystompboxes.com

But in the meantime here are some interesting excerpts archived from DIY-stompboxes:

Zitat

analogguguru wrote on June 12, 2007, 01:40:48 PM:

I will test it, even when Zvex claims it can´t be done and this was normal in old mixing consoles. Sorry, but which mixing consoles had this crakling noise?

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zachary vex wrote on June 13, 2007, 03:42:35 AM:

Thanks for asking! The console which I dissected to discover the use of a negative-feedback resistor adjustment was designed by Rupert Neve for Philips Corporation of Holland. In his design, the microphone input transistor (bipolar) immediately following the input transformer had a selector switch on the emitter resistor, allowing the user to select the gain and headroom simultaneously. The four positions on this switch were best selected with the monitor speakers turned down, of course, because the console's output made a horrific "POP!!!" when the switches were adjusted, as well as a crackling noise if they were wiggled. I traced one of the mic pre modules to discover this, and carried this idea to an adjustable negative feedback resistor in my MOSFET gainstage design. If you don't like the crackling noise when the gain knob is adjusted, don't use the SHO. It's that simple.

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analogguru wrote on June 14, 2007, 01:55:39 AM :

Interesting news,
hmmm ... did the "mic-pre module you traced" look like this or different:

[Blockierte Grafik: http://analogguru.an.ohost.de/pictures/Neve_early.jpg]

This is the oldest Neve-design I am aware of. Assuming that you don´t want to engage also in the studio-market and want to clone old Neve-designs for profit, my request shouldn´t violate forum-rules:
Maybe it is possible that you post the traced schematic ?

This is really interesting new stuff for me what I read above.

analogguru

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zachary vex wrote on June 14, 2007, 03:16:01 AM :

I didn't trace the entire schematic. I only traced out how the gain section worked. The board was a Philips broadcast console, made for radio stations. There were two in Minneapolis at one time and I purchased one of them for about $400 and traded it later for a couple of RCA tube mic preamps. I don't have the schematics or pictures of the modules. It was a glorious-looking thing, but it had lots of mechanical problems.

The only problem is, that Rupert Neve never designed a console for Philips. He only sold the first Neve console to Philips Recording Studios in London - which is not in Holland.

And this console didn´t have a selector switch at "the microphone input transistor (bipolar) immediately following the input transformer" which could crackle. The first transistor had a fixed 22k resistor at the emitter bypassed by a 100µF electrolytic and a fixed 22k at the collector.

analogguru

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Hi analogguru
how is the schematic redrawing going?
Cheers
Steve

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bajaman
I am still working on it, I will do both similar for comparision purposes (and ommit the unused parts).

But first I have (had) to finish the:

Seymour Duncan Tweak Fuzz schematic

analogguru

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I have been lurking around here for a while as well but did not register until today.
Looks like a great place!

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Hello to all!
I'm here....I hope you're all glad to see me!
analogguru, been trying to contact you about a schem!
Check your e-mail if possible.

BTW, I've lurked here for quite awhile.

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Ha ha! The Tweak Fuzz has almost the exact input cap switching arrangement I've been using... though I have different values. Switching those really does make a big difference in the sound.

Analogguru, you are right; there is absolutely NO WAY Rupert Neve would have designed a console with controls that crackle - especially in his early days. In several interviews he has said that part of the reason why his early equipment is so overengineered and heavy-duty was because he was absolutely paranoid about it not functioning correctly or the customer being dissatisfied in any way. Crackling controls have NEVER been considered acceptable in any manner of professional audio equipment.

I don't see how anyone could consider a simple basic common-source MOSFET amplifier with a poorly designed gain control something that is worth keeping a secret. Unless of course, he's concerned that people would refuse to pay over $200 for so cheap and juvenile of a product. Anyone could easily sell the exact same product for half that price and still make plenty of profit on it.

I still plan on visiting and contributing to the other forum when it's back up, but I guess we'll see......

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Zitat von soulsonic

I don't see how anyone could consider a simple basic common-source MOSFET amplifier with a poorly designed gain control something that is worth keeping a secret. Unless of course, he's concerned that people would refuse to pay over $200 for so cheap and juvenile of a product. Anyone could easily sell the exact same product for half that price and still make plenty of profit on it.

Ahhh, Marketing is a wonderful thing ain't it?!

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Same for me
I've been on diy stpb forum for a while, not posting a lot but reading, reading and learning. And i must say some people over there have been very helpful and friendly.
BUT ... the bla bla which is going on these days is realy boring, and some attitudes...well.
So, this seems to be a cool place, and i apologize, even close to you - Belgium - I can only say danke and bitte

OG

Nice to see Torchy and others here by the way

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Zitat von Holyoli

I can only say danke and bitte

... but these are the two most important words for comunication!