Hi to all.
This is my second M15 that I've built but in this one there are no voltages from the power supply.
At lugs 8-9 of transformer I've about 270 Vac. At positive lug of rectifier I've 240 Vdc, misured against ground, and about 100 Vac (always against ground). ??? How is it possible?
Finally, when I connect the positive of C21 with the positive of rectifier, the 200mA fuse blown.
Hope that someone help me, thanks....
M15Mk1 no voltages...
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Re: M15Mk1 no voltages...
News: I've tried with a larger fuse like a 500mA and works done with right voltages. Maybe there is high current flow when C21 charges.
For Martin: Is it not too small 200 mA for this use? -
Re: M15Mk1 no voltages...
NO!
When the 200mA slowblow fuse for the plate voltage blows, there is definitely something wrong! When you use a 500mA fuse instead, what's is the free running current?
Regards,
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Re: M15Mk1 no voltages...
How can I measure the current? To the positive of rectifier against ground? All the voltages are about +/- 1% to the refer of schematic.
PS:I've tried 2 old and used El84... -
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I've checked and rechecked the schematic, but I've not found mistakes...
The 200mA fuse blows when I connect C21 at + of rectifier.
I've used standard 0,5mm2 solid core wire for both primary and secondary side of PT. This may be the only thing that could raise the current, with correct voltages altough...
Is this right? Must I substitute with a 0,75mm2 stranded wire?
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Hi Tio Pepe,
no, the wire is fine. You've said, all voltages are OK, so you measure 10V DC between both sides of R33?
Regards,
Martin -
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Hi again Martin. This the voltage that I measured:
C21+ about 301V
C22+ about 292V
So the voltage between R33 is 8,6V... What I've to do?
Regards, Tio Pepe -
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Hmm, so the free running current is fine. Does the fuse blow also, when no tube is inserted?
Regards,
Martin -
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Yes, Martin. Fuse work only when the bridge rectifier is connected to the secondary of PT.
The starts to blow when I connect the C21 at bridge, with or without tubes.
(I've broked 10 fuses by 200mA :'(, so I've decided to substitute then with 500mA
As I've said, I think that there are too much current flow when the capacitors charges.
All in all, the amp works very great!
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Hi,
my assumption is, that the leakage current of C21 is too high, so you should change the cap to ensure the amp will work fine. You can check that by changing the wiring, so that C21 is behind R33 in parallel to the second cap. What's the voltage above R33 (with tubes) then?
Regards,
Martin -
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I'm sorry, but changing the wiring the fuse blows anyway...
I'll try to lowering the capacitance.....maybe..... -
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That's not what I suggested

Changing the wiring doesn't solve the problem, it just makes possible to calculate the current (by measuring the voltage upon R33. So you must leave the 500mA fuse inside to measure that. It's not a problem of the capacitance, the capacitor seems to be damaged.
Regards,
Martin -
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I've tried three capacitors. One of these rated for 350V; the second for 400V and the latter is can cap multiple made by JJ Electronics. The fuse blows anyway. So i'll try wiring the capacitors to calculate the current.
bye
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Hmm, that's strange, can you post additionally a picture of your power supply?
Regards,
Martin -
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Sorry...out of town.
Here are two links to pictures of my M15. I've changed little bit the design and capacitors. So the power switch is at the back, and pilot lamp (in parallel with power switch) and standby switch is in front.
In the supply board, the power resistor lies under the capacitor.[Blockierte Grafik: http://www.free4up.com/view.axd?fn=050164122052110.JPG]
[Blockierte Grafik: http://www.free4up.com/view.axd?fn=230008193037012.JPG]Regards.
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Re: M15Mk1 no voltages...
Hi Martin. This is the power supply of M15.
Regards[Blockierte Grafik: http://imajr.com/th/powersupply_78324.JPG]
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