• Hi,

    I have built a G2 kit and after completion I measured according to layout with good values. But when plugging in my guitar I get just a very low volume - I can barely hear the guitar if I get vey close to the speaker.

    I wonder if it could a problem with the OT secondary?
    How do I check this?

    Regards,

    Jonas from Sweden

  • Hi Jonas and welcome to the forum!
    Just plug in a speaker cable at the output plug socket and measure the resistance between ring and tip of the other plug of that cable (with the amp turned off!). What resisitance do you measure? When connecting a speaker, do you hear any hiss/hum or is it absolutely quiet?
    Regards,
    Martin

  • Zitat von MAD;325178

    Hi Jonas and welcome to the forum!
    Just plug in a speaker cable at the output plug socket and measure the resistance between ring and tip of the other plug of that cable (with the amp turned off!). What resisitance do you measure? When connecting a speaker, do you hear any hiss/hum or is it absolutely quiet?
    Regards,
    Martin


    Hi Martin,

    Thanks for your assistance.
    I checked the resistance and it was ap. 0,9-1.0 Ohm.
    No - I don't get any hiss or hum noise.

    Regards,

    Jonas

  • Hi Jonas,
    the resistance ist OK, please take out V2 (amp turned off) and easure the primary resistance of the OT (pin 6 of the tubes socket against the red wire of the OT and pin 1 of the tube socket against the red wire of the OT). Does the measurement changes, when SW1b is turned on/off?
    Regards,
    Martin

  • Zitat von MAD;325187

    Hi Jonas,
    the resistance ist OK, please take out V2 (amp turned off) and easure the primary resistance of the OT (pin 6 of the tubes socket against the red wire of the OT and pin 1 of the tube socket against the red wire of the OT). Does the measurement changes, when SW1b is turned on/off?
    Regards,
    Martin


    Ok resistances are (amp turned off and V2 removed):

    157 Ohm between pin 6 of V2 and red wire of OT
    111 Ohm between pin 1 of V2 and red wire of OT

    It doesn't matter in which position the SW1 is (Fat/Smooth) - I get the same readings.

    Regards,

    Jonas

  • I checked all voltages once more:

    C10+ : 245V
    C9+: 233V
    Heater: 6,44VAC (measured at V2 tube pins)
    TR2 red/red: 193,5VAC

    V1 pin1 177V (166 ac. to schematic)
    V1 pin3 1,48V (1,7)
    V1 pin6 177V (166)
    V1 pin8 1,47V (1,7)
    V2 pin3 4,8V (5)
    V2 pin6 243 (237)


    Values for 1V3 and 1V8 seem too low - what could be the reason for that?

    Also 1V1 and 1V6 are a little high but only slightly.

    regards,

    Jonas

  • Zitat von MAD;325187

    Hi Jonas,
    the resistance ist OK, please take out V2 (amp turned off) and easure the primary resistance of the OT (pin 6 of the tubes socket against the red wire of the OT and pin 1 of the tube socket against the red wire of the OT). Does the measurement changes, when SW1b is turned on/off?
    Regards,
    Martin


    Hi Martin,

    Have you had a chance to check my measurements?

    Regards,

    Jonas

  • Jonas,
    all your voltages are fine, 20% tolerance are OK for a tube amp. I've measured the resistance of the 125A output transformer in my G2, 110 and 150 Ohm are OK. So it's not the output transformer, I assume it's wrong wiring of the amp. Have you checked the wiring thoroughly against the documentation?
    Regards,
    Martin

  • I have checked the wiring many times without finding any errors.
    Doesn't the fact that I can hear the guitar at a vey low volume help you to isolate the possible source of problem(s)? At max volume I have checked the tone and fat/smooth switch and they seem to work.
    Could the V2 tube be defect?

    Regards,

    Jonas

  • Upon resoldering the V2 connections I meassured the resistor R9 to 220 Ohm (should be 220 kOhm). Color code is red, red, brown which matches 220 Ohm.

    From what I understand this means less signal goes to the power amp tube thus resulting in a very low volume ?!?

    Does this resistor have to be 2W or can I replace it with a 1/4W?

    Regards,

    Jonas

  • Zitat von eBernd;325962

    Yes, you can ;D

    Regards,
    Bernd


    After replacing the resistor against a new one with correct speccs the amp works and sounds real sweet.
    Thanks for the help.

    Regards,

    Jonas

  • Zitat von Fridell76;325954

    Upon resoldering the V2 connections I meassured the resistor R9 to 220 Ohm (should be 220 kOhm). Color code is red, red, brown which matches 220 Ohm.

    From what I understand this means less signal goes to the power amp tube thus resulting in a very low volume ?!?

    Does this resistor have to be 2W or can I replace it with a 1/4W?

    Regards,

    Jonas

    Hi.. Before you replace the resistor check in the schematic:
    Maybe you have put 220k where the 220R is supposed to be and they need to change place? Its an easy mistake to make..

    If you replace it now without check, you may have wrong resistor (220k) somewhere else in the circuit, if you understand me.

  • Hi friends!

    Same problem with R9. Also was send R9=220R in my kit.

    Fortunately, I always measure all the values before soldering. I realized the mistake and replaced it with a 220K/2W one.

    All worked perfectly. This amp sounds great. It filled all my expectations. Now I am working in the case for the amp and my new Celestion V30.

    Many thanks Martin!

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